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Isaacp · Jun 08, 2005, 08:08 PM // 20:08

hi,
I just read on the Official GW website that they banned over 100 accounts yesterday because they used bots

"Bots Banned 7 June 2005

s part of our continuing promise to keep Guild Wars free of hacks, cheats, and other exploits, we closed the accounts of more than 100 users of in-game "bots" today. Bots are against the EULA and the Rules of Conduct, and we will continue to remove players from the game if they engage in the use of such programs."

What happens to these people? are they not allowed to play GW anymore?
I think it is hardly fair, since they payed like $57.49 or more (maybe less)
and then they get banned. Because I heard that you have to have a different serial for each account. So does that mean if they want to continue playing, they have to buy another copy of GW?

I'm not saying that I'm going to cheat, but I was just wondering what would happen to them.

Valin · Jun 08, 2005, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Yeah, they'll have to buy a new account if they want to play. Although I have to disagree with you. It's completely fair and they were warned well in advance if they bothered to read the EULA. They knew the risk.

Swampgirl Inez · Jun 08, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Yes, I'm pretty sure a banned account means saying 'bye, bye' to your 50 bucks.

Personally, I don't understand the reasoning behind paying 50 dollars for a game your aren't really 'playing' in the first place. Why spend that kind of money if you aren't going to actually put the effort into enjoying for yourself?

Isaacp · Jun 08, 2005, 08:17 PM // 20:17

thats true, but still, I think that there should be some kind of waring system
1st offence- 1 week ban
2nd offence- 1 month ban
3rd offence- account deletion

what do you think.
It is true thatthey were warned....maybe I should go read the EULA now...

,btw, where can I find the EULA?

ethornber · Jun 08, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18

It's that thing you clicked 'agree' to when you installed the game.

CtrlAltDel · Jun 08, 2005, 08:19 PM // 20:19

its that thing you clicked 'i agree' to when you installed it

as for bots
if i'd see a bot looking name or behavior, i'd report that before i'd report someone with a childish offensive name...

[email protected] post, amost exact same wording at the same time

Azmodan · Jun 08, 2005, 08:21 PM // 20:21

I think that their IP address should be banned so they can't even buy a new game. Besides, how many of those were farming bots that turned around and sold the stuff on Ebay? They got their money back and more.

Isaacp · Jun 08, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22

so, in other words, insted or just clicking it, I should read first?
Can I find it on the official GW Website?

Swampgirl Inez · Jun 08, 2005, 08:23 PM // 20:23

The EULA is the long 'agreement' we all click "I Agree" on when we sign up for the account. I'm sure there is a copy on the main GW site or in your game account setup.

Anyway, a specific Bot warning has been on this site and on the GW site for a few weeks now, not to mention the 'keylogger' warning that pops up everytime you log into the game.

So no, I do not think a warnind system should be implemented. The bot-users have already been warned of policy. Those policies should be used accordingly.

CtrlAltDel · Jun 08, 2005, 08:26 PM // 20:26

put your cd in, and look for the eula.txt of whatever file on there, im sure there is one there, im at work though and cannot check

Loviatar · Jun 08, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Isaacp
where do you think most of the gold being sold for 100k/35 dollars is coming from anyway?

all they will do is open 5 more accounts and continue

hassoon · Jun 08, 2005, 08:33 PM // 20:33

Good job AN no sympathy or tolerance for these fools the EULA clearly states the rules.

Isaacp · Jun 08, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37

LOL CtrlAltDel, at work, and browzing forums? are u obsessed? (no offence)
I am, I would go on this forum during school, but the blocked the "unblocking" site...kinda ironic.

Tiedye · Jun 08, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42

I agree that the IP address should be banned in addition to account deletion. How much of a safeguard is the game's $50 purchase price against people making a fortune selling bot farmed gold and items on eBay? At least make them go through the hassle of spoofing a new address...

Stabwound · Jun 08, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Actually I am pretty sure that I read from Gaile Gray that it wasn't really item hunting bots, but just bots that spammed a certain website or item sale offer in chats.

Teklord · Jun 08, 2005, 10:08 PM // 22:08

A bot is a bot, its specific function matters not. It has no place in a game.

spiritofcat · Jun 08, 2005, 11:03 PM // 23:03

I thought I heard from Gaile before that they were only banning individual characters and not the whole account. For the first offence that is. Repeat offenders should be fully banned.

Jigokunoinu · Jun 08, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12

Why is it people still believe banning by IP is going to work? The majority of gamers would have dynamic IP addresses and so all banning an IP would do is force someone to restart their computer / modem. It also has the added bonus of banning whoever is lucky enough to be assigned that IP next ...

Disabling their account is sufficient, though, as Loviatar said, they probably already made the price of the game back many times over selling their botted gold.

RHR · Jun 09, 2005, 12:13 AM // 00:13

As has been said numerous times above when you Clicked on "Agree" to the EULA you agreed to not using BOTs of any kind whatsoever.

92.6% of the folks who were banned for using BOTs were probably in High School or below, with no scruples, out to make a quick buck off of a game with no monthly fees, whatsoever. "But, I was just trying to build up an 'Uber' toon, Man." is the excuse that most of them would spout, but if you believe that pile of bovine scatology, I have a bridge in brooklyn that I would love to sell you.

A BOT is a BOT, is a BOT. No matter how you cut it or what you say it was for, it is a CHEAT program and all were warned from the get-go, that BOTs would not be tolerated.

I say, "Three Cheers" for the Dev team, for standing behind their word.

Yes, the little, cheating, turds, will just go buy another copy of the game and be right back in looking for another way to scam the game and the gamers. It would appear, however, that Arenanet is not asleep at the wheel.

Once they have been banned 3 or 4 times, they will go somewhere else where the Game-Ops are asleep at the wheel. The scammers are like your town burglers. They will always look for the easy mark, and exploit it. Thankfully, they are discovering that GW is not the easy mark it initially appeared to be.

"Good riddance to bad rubbish," is all that can be said that whole crowd.

MaglorD · Jun 09, 2005, 05:55 AM // 05:55

No offense, but it seems to me the OP or someone he knew was banned and is now whining about it. Banning is necessary to prevent the game from becoming shite. I fully agree with what Arenanet has done. Wish they'd done it earlier and cracked down on those idiots selling gold for real money.

Jun 08, 2005, 08:08 PM // 20:08	#1
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	Deleteion of account hi, I just read on the Official GW website that they banned over 100 accounts yesterday because they used bots "Bots Banned 7 June 2005 s part of our continuing promise to keep Guild Wars free of hacks, cheats, and other exploits, we closed the accounts of more than 100 users of in-game "bots" today. Bots are against the EULA and the Rules of Conduct, and we will continue to remove players from the game if they engage in the use of such programs." What happens to these people? are they not allowed to play GW anymore? I think it is hardly fair, since they payed like $57.49 or more (maybe less) and then they get banned. Because I heard that you have to have a different serial for each account. So does that mean if they want to continue playing, they have to buy another copy of GW? I'm not saying that I'm going to cheat, but I was just wondering what would happen to them.

Jun 09, 2005, 12:13 AM // 00:13	#19
RHR Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bremerton, WA Guild: FMS Profession: W/N	You agreed. Why complain and whine? As has been said numerous times above when you Clicked on "Agree" to the EULA you agreed to not using BOTs of any kind whatsoever. 92.6% of the folks who were banned for using BOTs were probably in High School or below, with no scruples, out to make a quick buck off of a game with no monthly fees, whatsoever. "But, I was just trying to build up an 'Uber' toon, Man." is the excuse that most of them would spout, but if you believe that pile of bovine scatology, I have a bridge in brooklyn that I would love to sell you. A BOT is a BOT, is a BOT. No matter how you cut it or what you say it was for, it is a CHEAT program and all were warned from the get-go, that BOTs would not be tolerated. I say, "Three Cheers" for the Dev team, for standing behind their word. Yes, the little, cheating, turds, will just go buy another copy of the game and be right back in looking for another way to scam the game and the gamers. It would appear, however, that Arenanet is not asleep at the wheel. Once they have been banned 3 or 4 times, they will go somewhere else where the Game-Ops are asleep at the wheel. The scammers are like your town burglers. They will always look for the easy mark, and exploit it. Thankfully, they are discovering that GW is not the easy mark it initially appeared to be. "Good riddance to bad rubbish," is all that can be said that whole crowd.

Jun 08, 2005, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#2
Valin Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Order of the Stick Profession: N/Mo	Yeah, they'll have to buy a new account if they want to play. Although I have to disagree with you. It's completely fair and they were warned well in advance if they bothered to read the EULA. They knew the risk.

Jun 08, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#3
Swampgirl Inez "I love reading trash!" Join Date: May 2005 Location: Home Again	Yes, I'm pretty sure a banned account means saying 'bye, bye' to your 50 bucks. Personally, I don't understand the reasoning behind paying 50 dollars for a game your aren't really 'playing' in the first place. Why spend that kind of money if you aren't going to actually put the effort into enjoying for yourself?

Jun 08, 2005, 08:17 PM // 20:17	#4
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	thats true, but still, I think that there should be some kind of waring system 1st offence- 1 week ban 2nd offence- 1 month ban 3rd offence- account deletion what do you think. It is true thatthey were warned....maybe I should go read the EULA now... ,btw, where can I find the EULA?

Jun 08, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18	#5
ethornber Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	It's that thing you clicked 'agree' to when you installed the game.

Jun 08, 2005, 08:19 PM // 20:19	#6
CtrlAltDel Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ohio Guild: Brotherhood of Havoc Profession: Mo/Me	its that thing you clicked 'i agree' to when you installed it as for bots if i'd see a bot looking name or behavior, i'd report that before i'd report someone with a childish offensive name... [email protected] post, amost exact same wording at the same time

Jun 08, 2005, 08:21 PM // 20:21	#7
Azmodan Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	I think that their IP address should be banned so they can't even buy a new game. Besides, how many of those were farming bots that turned around and sold the stuff on Ebay? They got their money back and more.

Jun 08, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22	#8
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	so, in other words, insted or just clicking it, I should read first? Can I find it on the official GW Website?

Jun 08, 2005, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#9
Swampgirl Inez "I love reading trash!" Join Date: May 2005 Location: Home Again	The EULA is the long 'agreement' we all click "I Agree" on when we sign up for the account. I'm sure there is a copy on the main GW site or in your game account setup. Anyway, a specific Bot warning has been on this site and on the GW site for a few weeks now, not to mention the 'keylogger' warning that pops up everytime you log into the game. So no, I do not think a warnind system should be implemented. The bot-users have already been warned of policy. Those policies should be used accordingly.

Jun 08, 2005, 08:26 PM // 20:26	#10
CtrlAltDel Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ohio Guild: Brotherhood of Havoc Profession: Mo/Me	put your cd in, and look for the eula.txt of whatever file on there, im sure there is one there, im at work though and cannot check

Jun 08, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28	#11
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	Isaacp where do you think most of the gold being sold for 100k/35 dollars is coming from anyway? all they will do is open 5 more accounts and continue

Jun 08, 2005, 08:33 PM // 20:33	#12
hassoon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005	Good job AN no sympathy or tolerance for these fools the EULA clearly states the rules.

Jun 08, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37	#13
Isaacp Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario Guild: Penguins With Rifles Profession: N/Me	LOL CtrlAltDel, at work, and browzing forums? are u obsessed? (no offence) I am, I would go on this forum during school, but the blocked the "unblocking" site...kinda ironic.

Jun 08, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42	#14
Tiedye Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	I agree that the IP address should be banned in addition to account deletion. How much of a safeguard is the game's $50 purchase price against people making a fortune selling bot farmed gold and items on eBay? At least make them go through the hassle of spoofing a new address...

Jun 08, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59	#15
Stabwound Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	Actually I am pretty sure that I read from Gaile Gray that it wasn't really item hunting bots, but just bots that spammed a certain website or item sale offer in chats.

Jun 08, 2005, 10:08 PM // 22:08	#16
Teklord Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lloyd.ab.ca Guild: Lords of All Profession: R/Mo	A bot is a bot, its specific function matters not. It has no place in a game.

Jun 08, 2005, 11:03 PM // 23:03	#17
spiritofcat Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Order of the Sanguine Dragon [OSD] Profession: E/Mo	I thought I heard from Gaile before that they were only banning individual characters and not the whole account. For the first offence that is. Repeat offenders should be fully banned.

Jun 08, 2005, 11:12 PM // 23:12	#18
Jigokunoinu Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia Profession: E/Mo	Why is it people still believe banning by IP is going to work? The majority of gamers would have dynamic IP addresses and so all banning an IP would do is force someone to restart their computer / modem. It also has the added bonus of banning whoever is lucky enough to be assigned that IP next ... Disabling their account is sufficient, though, as Loviatar said, they probably already made the price of the game back many times over selling their botted gold.

Jun 09, 2005, 05:55 AM // 05:55	#20
MaglorD Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005	No offense, but it seems to me the OP or someone he knew was banned and is now whining about it. Banning is necessary to prevent the game from becoming shite. I fully agree with what Arenanet has done. Wish they'd done it earlier and cracked down on those idiots selling gold for real money.